I may be way off track, but it seems to me that the folks who thrive in this industry (and certainly the survivors of late) share many of the same tainted characteristics or key ingredients if you will. The people who last in this business are risk takers, contrarians, the like to push the envelope, very much at home in the grey area, extremely cynical, resourceful, witty, often deviants, super sharp (although many like to play dumb) and a handful of them happen to be good story tellers…

Don’t get me wrong – God knows we’re not saving any lives and when we’re lined up with teachers, fireman and soldiers outside the pearly gates, we won’t be receiving any preferential treatment (that is, if we get through the gates at all). But I will say this – “we’re pretty fucking smart” and brighter than most. In the world of trading, education means nothing. It’s about street smarts and wit.

It makes no difference whether you’re buy or sell side… the job is the same. We trade stocks and are paid on performance. We examine fundamental and technical mayhem to identify trading rhythms in markets where more often than not there is no rhyme or reason. The variables are constantly changing and if you can’t keep up with the moves – you’re dead. It’s a world where you need opinions but can’t get opinionated. Ironically the most stable variable we have to lean on is our relationships with each other. This is why trust is so important and the reason we dedicate so much time into getting to know your brokers, your clients and how your firms interact with one another.

Since Wall Street is one big leather couch, being a psychologist is definitely one of the things in your job description. Sales traders are forever stroking customer egos and finding ways to keep everybody happy while they try to build relationships… Buy-side traders struggle to appease their not so market savvy portfolio managers while they maintaining continuity with 50 different brokers and 50 very different personalities.

“Can I call this guy without him running ahead of me?”, “Who do I call – Who don’t I call?”, “Am I about to get run over?” These are questions we ask ourselves all day. We worry about the same things and all we want to do is look good at the end of the day.

I’m not saying everybody else is stupid, but the majority of the world certainly doesn’t think like we do. In our world there is no room for dumb mistakes and when they happen… we just ‘make them right’. Since we’re held to such high standards of performance we have no tolerance for the pimple-faced c-student who slaps mayo on the chicken sandwich you just asked to have without. Trading room life sharpens your senses, you see more, you hear more and you learn to read people better. You can process information faster than the average person because you are conditioned to do so. You can make split second decisions that your comfortable with. We don’t small talk – we get to the point… We don’t even waste time with “goodbye” when we hang up the phone.

The reality is, the longer you’re in this business the less tolerant you are of the daily bullshit. “Get to the fucking point”, “Make up your mind already” and no more Mister fucking nice guy. It just happens. The trading room is Miracle Grow for belligerence. Folks (including myself) like to make jokes about how all traders have ADD. We don’t have ADD we just choose to block out all the useless shit spewing from your mouth. Say something that matters, something that can make me money… I’ll show you who’s listening.

I was having dinner the other night with some friends I hadn’t seen in 2 years. Dinner was three long hours of useless small talk.  This guy spent twenty minutes babbling on about how kids keep stealing his lawn ornaments and to make the experience even more painful his wife would put her hand on his and finish every other sentence for him.  Fucking shoot me.  I realized that night, that I have little interest in associating with nice people anymore. Nice, average, regular, boring… whatever you want to call them. “They’re getting so big”“We should do this more often.”…”Did you see that game?” .. Just shut the fuck up and eat so we can get out of here. Honestly, I’d rather sit down with pirates, thieves and prostitutes. At least they’re interesting and bound to have some good stories. Nice people never say anything off color; they avoid confrontation and stay neutral. They are benign.  We like a twist, a dark side, something to snicker at.

Why do I hate nice people?

  • They’re always smiling
  • The say good morning and comment on the weather.
  • They don’t realize people take advantage of their nice-ness
  • They say things like “everything happens for a reason” and “things will all work out in the end” at times when you really don’t want to hear it.
  • They avoid conflict by taking an insult and turning it around into a compliment. Human beings love conflict, it’s natural to want to hit someone.
  • It’s harder to stay mad at a nice person (and that’s more annoying because sometimes you just wanna be pissed off).
  • Nice people say things like “Well if I could remember where I left it, then it wouldn’t be lost.” and then chuckle as opposed to “I just said I fucking lost it!”
  • They’re so agreeable.
  • They say “thank you” even when the service is bad.
  • They don’t kick people when they’re down.  Instead they say, “Oh leave him alone“…  I mean seriously – Where’s the fun in that?

I understand that regular people outside of Wall Street wouldn’t be able to relate, but I know you guys do.  Think about it… If some Richie Cunningham type was hired to work with you on your trading desk, it wouldn’t take more than 10 minutes before the rest of you started calling each other on the inside and walking all over him. They don’t last in this business. “Nice guys finish last” clearly never worked in this industry.  Cause in this business, nice guys are dead meat, subject to ongoing ridicule and weak.  Nice people on Wall Street are temporary.  They don’t last, there’s no place for them here.

Since we are human and need to interact with the real world, we need to act nice from time to time but that’s OK.  Just like when dogs sniff each other – smart people, sharp people can still recognize each other, they see the wolf behind the mask.  Could you imagine working in a 5×5 cubicle somewhere talking to the drone next to you about what weed killers works best while you peel the plastic wrap off your left over turkey sandwich…  Fuck that.  Wicked wit, cynicism, eat what you kill, buying, selling and pushing the envelope… that’s where it’s at.  This is home gentlemen.

I hate nice people, they annoy me. People who are too nice get no respect and people who get sensitive make me sick. When a guy gets emotional on me it makes my stomach turn.  Has the nature of the business made us ill or are we stronger?  I know my answer. I’ll take Jack the Ripper over Pope John Paul any day.

Bring on the demons,

-Dopey


15 responses to “Nice People – Sold to You!”

  1. Al Veoli Avatar
    Al Veoli

    This is pretty philosophical stuff, but it pretty right on as to what we do for our paychecks. We do fulfill a valuable service. We’re matchmakers, bringing together douchebag sellers (Douchebag A) with other douchebag buyers(Douchebag B), pocketing the difference between what Douchebag A is willing to take and what douchebag B is willing to pay.

    I really didn’t need to study for 2 years after college to do this gig, but WTF! It pays the rent and keeps my DB wife from divorcing me and making me pay her to take everything I have worked for. So we learn to do our jobs and have a few laughs along the way. This is one I heard today for the other fellas:

    A blonde and a brunette are taking a walk, and the brunette goes, “Oh look, a dead bird,” and the blonde looks up at the sky and goes, “Where? “

  2. Al Veoli Avatar
    Al Veoli

    Am I the only douche left on this site? Here’s another one for the fellas:

    Four nuns are killed in a car accident and arrive at the Gates of Heaven.
    They line up in front of St Peter.
    The first nun says ‘St Peter, I once saw a man’s penis. May I still enter?’ St Peter replies ‘Wash your eyes in this font of holy water and proceed.’
    The second nun says ‘St Peter, I once touched a man’s penis. May I still enter?’ St Peter replies ‘Wash your hands in this font of holy water and proceed.’
    St Peter suddenly notices a scuffle between the last two nuns.
    The fourth nun is trying to cut in front of the third nun.
    ‘What is going on?’ he asks the fourth nun. ‘I’m trying to go first so I can wash my mouth out before she sticks her arse in the font.’

  3. Priapus Avatar
    Priapus

    A
           young Arab boy asks his father, “What is that weird hat you are
           wearing?”

    The
           father said, “Why, it’s a ‘chechia’ because in the desert it protects
           our heads from the sun.”

    “And what is this type of
           clothing that you are wearing?” asked the young
           man.

    “It’s a ‘djbellah’ because in the desert it is
           very hot and it protects the body.” said the
           father.

    The son asked, “And what about those ugly
           shoes on your feet?

    His father replied, “These are
           ‘babouches”, which keep us from burning our feet in the
           desert.”

    “Tell me,” added the
           boy.

    “Yes, my son?”

    “Why are you
           living in Dearborn , Michigan and still wearing all this
           shit?

  4. monkey Avatar
    monkey

    Charlie Sheen would make a great trader

  5. Former Shooter Avatar
    Former Shooter

    Great post. Understood.

  6. Al Veoli Avatar
    Al Veoli

    Charlie gets his share of pussy. But what a shame that he is paying cold cash for it.

    Here’s a good joke for the dudes who like to quote the Bible and holy verses:

    One day, God goes to find Adam and Eve in the garden, but finds that Adam is sitting by himself.
    ‘Where’s Eve?’, He asks.
    ‘Well,’ says Adam, ‘She started to bleed. This happens every month or so.’
    ‘So where is she?’ asks God.
    ‘Well, she went down to the river to wash up.’ replies Adam.
    ‘Damn,’ says God. ‘I just created the sweet water fish. How will I ever get the smell off the fish?’

    ==========
    we live this sin every day we go home to our wives. Fish City.

  7. Priapus Avatar
    Priapus

    Wow, if you taco smells like fish and tastes like fish, i feel sorry for you. Hubba stank? Yikes. Seller of Mrs. V, and i need the tick! (old skool)

  8. elvis Avatar
    elvis

    al couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse

  9. Priapus Avatar
    Priapus

    Al couldnt get laid in a womens prison with a fist full of franklins.

  10. Al veoli Avatar
    Al veoli

    man was suffering from severe headaches for years with no relief. After trying all the usual cures he was referred to a headache specialist by his family doctor.  The specialist asked him what his symptoms were and he replied, ‘I get these blinding headaches kind of like a knife across my scalp and….’
    He was interrupted. ‘And a heavy throbbing right behind the left ear?’
    ‘Yes! Exactly! How did you know?’ ‘Well I am the world’s greatest headache specialist, but I myself suffered from that same type of headache for many years. It is caused by a tension in the scalp muscles. This is how I cured it: Every day I would give my wife oral sex. When she came she would squeeze her legs together with all her strength and the pressure would relieve the tension in my head. Try that every day for two weeks and come back and let me know how it goes.’
    Two weeks went by and the man came back. ‘Well, how do you feel?’ the doctor asked. ‘Doc, I’m a new man! I feel great! I haven’t had a headache since I started this treatment! I can’t thank you enough. And, by the way….nice house!’

  11. elvis Avatar
    elvis

    One day Al and Priapus were walking down the street when Al said, “You know I took skydiving lessons last week.”

    “Really,” said Priapus in amazement, “How did it go?”

    “Well the week started out alright while we were in the class learning the basics. But then Wednesday rolled around and it came time to take our first jump.”

    “And?” Priapus asked.

    “Well I was the last one to jump but when I got to the door I couldn’t do it. So the instructor told me ‘you had better jump out of this god damn plane before I stick my dick right up your ass.’”

    “Well did you jump?” asked Piapus.

    “Yeah, a little.”

  12. Al Veoli Avatar
    Al Veoli

    Way to go, Elvis. Priapus is the kind of fella that likes to try new things, but not with my weiner! Here’s a new one for the fellas:

    Doctor, doctor, please kiss me,’ says the patient.
    ‘No, I’m sorry, that would be against the code of ethics,’ says the doctor.
    Ten minutes later the patient says: ‘Doctor, please, kiss me just once.’ ‘No, I’m sorry, I just can’t’ he says.
    Five minutes later, she asks again: ‘Please, please kiss me!’
    ‘Look,’ says the doctor, ‘it’s out of the question. In fact, I probably shouldn’t even be fucking you.

  13. elvis Avatar
    elvis

    ah c’mon Al, stop stealing my material…Al is hiking up a mountain when he sees a girl standing at the edge of a cliff, crying.

    “Hey,” he says, “if you’re going to jump, how about giving me a blow job before you do it?”

    “My life’s been nothing but crap,” says the girl. “So I might as well.”

    After the girl’s done, Al says, “Wow, that was great. Why are you so depressed, anyway?”

    The girl replies, “My family disowned me for dressing like a woman.”

  14. Al Veoli Avatar
    Al Veoli

    That one I’ve heard. How about this one for the fellas?

    A man, Elvis, walks past an ice cream stand that advertises, ‘Every flavor ice cream in the world.’ ‘Bullshit,’ Elvis thinks and walks in.
    ‘So you say you have every flavor ice cream in the world? O.K., I would like three scoops of cunt flavored ice cream please.’

    ‘No problem sir.’
    The assistant gives Elvis three scoops of ice cream in a cone and Elvis takes a good lick.
    Grimacing, Elvis says, ‘This doesn’t taste like cunt, it tastes like shit!’
    The assistant replies, ‘Of course it tastes like shit when you take such long licks!’.

  15. mr bill Avatar
    mr bill

    A woman was in a coma. She had been in it for months. The doctors were at a loss so they decided to try one last quasi-medical trick.

    They went to her husband and said, “As crazy as this sounds, maybe a little oral sex will do the trick and bring her out of the coma.” The husband was skeptical, but they assured him that they’d close the curtains for privacy. The husband finally agreed and went into his wife’s room.

    After a few minutes the woman’s monitor flatlined—no pulse, no heart rate.

    The doctors ran back into the room. “What happened!?” they cried. The husband said, “I’m not sure—I think maybe she choked.”

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